Comments on Bug This! Techie Journal - Developer's geek eyes on the world: Why ASP.NET is leaky... Example of over-engineerin...

A real developer use assembly dude :)

Ok ba...

2007-07-11T16:42:00.000+08:00

A real developer use assembly dude :)

Ok back to the problem. I can get you start really quick by create a sample project for you, including binaries. But I still don't understand whats the difficulty. Can be more specific?
Also which version of castle you downloaded? (I encourage you to download the new successful build trunk from http://builds.castleproject.org)

The steps

First, to be a real developer...

LOL...

2007-07-11T16:30:00.000+08:00

First, to be a real developer...

LOL. Yea, I know, a real programmer uses FORTRAN. (Which I did, at one time.) I'm interested in solving my problem. I can install the .NET framework and start using it. I can install MonoRail and, even with all their documentation, start hunting on Google for articles on how to fix it. You know, like a real developer.

Right.

And for #1, I am not complaining- I am saying you ...

2007-07-11T10:04:00.000+08:00

And for #1, I am not complaining- I am saying you can't reuse what comes in with ASP.NET anyway, so in MR the simplicity to create a view component is better than providing you components thats much less flexible to use and creating one is so much a PITA.

First, to be a real developer, you have to take th...

2007-07-11T10:00:00.000+08:00

First, to be a real developer, you have to take the hard work and try to set it up. If you really tried, then the first thing you need to do is really get more help from castle group on your setup issues. I don't think your 404 is going to need rocket science to solve, and you have to get over this simple enough hurdle to get the grapes out from the garden :)

And it compiles. HasSection

Honestly, this example made me give up on any atte...

2007-07-11T07:18:00.000+08:00

Honestly, this example made me give up on any attempt to use MonoRail. I can't believe that you consider this an argument for it.

A few points:

1. You're actually writing a new component, exactly what you complain about in your point 1.

2. A new custom control derived from GridView that's supposed to rotate through 3 or more styles and add an Edit/Add/Delete link

This is not an RoR sample, instead its a MonoRail ...

2007-06-18T23:20:00.000+08:00

This is not an RoR sample, instead its a MonoRail sample.

I agree what you said on win some and lose some on choices, the problem is this 'over-engineered' framework complicates the matter a lot. I think you could try to write something using MonoRail. Its not difficult to follow and I think you would get very inspired by the simplicity once you get your hands on it.

You can

Good post! Your english is sometimes hard to follo...

2007-06-18T20:33:00.000+08:00

Good post! Your english is sometimes hard to follow, but your point is clear. You know what, the typical ASP.NET developer (like me) will have a hard time understanding your RoR example, though I can see it's pretty powerful. But in the end, ASP.NET viewstate does give me an easy time, after postback, all controls remain the same. You win some, you lose some.